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STATEMENT
By
H.E. Mr. Vartan Oskanian
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Armenia
at the
57th Session of the United Nations General Assembly
General Debate
New York, September 15, 2002

Mr. President,
Mr. Secretary-General,
Excellencies,
Distinguished Delegates,

May I begin by congratulating Mr. Jan Kavan upon his election to the post of President of this 57th session of the General Assembly and wish him success in his work. I would also like to thank Mr. Hang Seung-soo for having so ably conducted the 56th session.

It is with special pleasure that I welcome the admission of the Swiss Confederation to the United Nations. That we have the pleasure and the opportunity to welcome such a new member – a longstanding democracy which has only recently chosen to enter this forum – is continuing testimony of the vitality, viability and relevance of this unique body.

Mr. President,

This time last year, new states and old, were thunderstruck by terror that is still indescribable. We were reeling from the enormity of what terrorism had wrought, even as we looked for a place from which to begin to understand why. Millennia of experience with the devastation of war had not provided us with the tools necessary to diagnose this new form of combat.

Today, a year later, as we persevere with the arduous endeavor to eradicate the affliction, we also continue to search for causes. We distinguish, certainly, between comprehending and concurring, awareness and acquiescence, understanding and justification. At the same time, we recognize that diagnosis does not always bring its own cure.

We cannot go back to where we were a year ago, in either our assumptions or our actions. The fundamental question we must all answer is: What is it that we can and cannot, should and should not do to other human beings? The answer must include a rejection of plain injustice and abject poverty. This will go a long way towards alleviating the hopelessness that perpetuates those same societal ills.

It is with this in mind that we welcome the targets and timetables adopted to spur action on a wide range of issues at the just-concluded Summit on Sustainable Development. Critical among these goals is the need to provide and manage water, as a basic element of life, and a basic requirement of dignified living. Without them, neither economic nor political stability is possible.

The other two major UN events of this year -- the Conference on Financing for Development and the Special Session on Children – also demonstrate that social and economic development must be tackled in tandem, for global peace and security.

In Armenia, too, we are focusing on both aspects of development. The Armenian Government’s Poverty Reduction Strategy Program aims to establish an umbrella for formulation and implementation of sustainable human development strategies in areas damaged by earthquake and conflict. We shall do this by building domestic capacities for governance, restoring social services in education and health, agricultural development, reforestation, and disaster preparedness.

Armenia’s response to the very Special Session on Children is the elaboration and implementation of our National Plan of Action for Children. The National Plan of Action sets 10-year goals for the protection of the rights of the child, outlines principal strategies and establishes indicators and mechanisms for monitoring progress toward the enumerated goals.

The decades of summits and forums on the variety of social and economic ills which face modern societies have amply demonstrated that committed partnerships are necessary for serious progress. At home, government and civil society have to work together to implement the decisions of these forums, but at the global level, governments and international agencies must also provide together the resources and impetus for these universal agendas.

Mr. President,

Economic prosperity hinges on internal, regional and international stability. That stability in turn depends on cooperation and goodwill. In our region, despite the existence of various conflicts, we continue to be hopeful that democratic processes will create civil societies with responsible leaders committed to a resolution of political issues.

In Armenia, we look forward to a year of elections: Presidential elections – the fourth since independence – will be followed by parliamentary elections, which in turn will be followed by a referendum on constitutional reforms. We are proud that we have had a working constitution for more than seven years, and that constitution has seen us through difficult periods without leading to domestic turmoil.

Nevertheless, as with any evolving society, we recognize the need to make some changes in order to more accurately reflect our commitment to becoming a society which respects the rule of law and the rights of individuals.

We are equally proud that the Armenians of Nagorno Karabagh, too, in the midst of their ongoing struggle for self-determination, have also completed another presidential election cycle. Indeed, the people of Nagorno Karabagh deserve to be commended for adopting the rule of law, despite continuing adverse social and economic conditions.

As the OSCE and its Minsk Group co-chairs continue to work with Armenia, Azerbaijan and Nagorno Karabagh towards a settlement that will wisely, with an eye to the realities on the ground, determine Nagorno Karabagh’s final status, it is self-evident that only a democratically elected leadership, which enjoys a popular mandate, will be able to actively and legitimately participate in the final negotiations that affect the status of their own people.

It was with this in mind that in 1992, at the Helsinki CSCE Council of Ministers, it was decided that elected and other representatives of Nagorno-Karabakh will be invited to the [Minsk] Conference, entrusted with determining the final status of Nagorno Karabagh.

Therefore, while elections and democratization do not presume any status, self-determination is always more legitimate when accompanied by democratic processes.

The international community seems to understand, often welcomes, and sometimes assists in electoral democratic processes in areas whose international legal status is still in flux and ostensibly subject to the sovereignty of an existing state. We do not understand why such wise and non-prejudicial approaches or strategies should be denied to Nagorno Karabagh where de facto self-rule is already in place for almost 10 years.

And, democratization and self-determination together become both necessary and inevitable when the formation of the new independent entity takes place inside states which are deficient in democracy and their respect of human rights and the applications of all the principles of the UN is unsatisfactory.

Nothing demonstrates this more than East Timor’s upcoming membership in this body. So it is with pleasure that we extend to them the heartfelt congratulations of the Armenian Government. East Timor’s presence here is proof that a blanket rejection of all self-determination claims is not valid, and does not take into account the very real fact that these movements are, by their nature, not all alike or even similar. Different self-determination struggles have evolved in decidedly different ways. Therefore, each ought to be treated differently.

The international community's challenge continues to be to adopt policies that will contribute to the peaceful solution of each conflict.

In order to adopt correct policies, criteria must be adopted by which to characterize and judge each case on its own merit, realistically taking into account the real situation on the ground, in order to reach lasting peace.

What the people of Nagorno Karabagh and the whole region are still waiting for is lasting peace.

And I would have thought that this is what the leadership of Azerbaijan would want, as well. Based on the very hopeful meetings which take place between the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan, we have reason to be positive.

However, having followed the comments of my colleague from Azerbaijan, made from this podium, I’m not just shocked, I’m also dismayed that he is not keeping pace with the progress being made in the region by his and my presidents.

It’s been two years since the meetings of Paris, and Key West, when the international community put forth their views on the issue. Since then, some Azerbaijani officials, out of desperation or ignorance, use every means at their disposal to discredit the initiatives of that international community, looking for ways to artificially link them to the critical issues of the day.

After September 11, the talk of the threat of international terrorism caused Azerbaijan to make accusations which came full circle to damage its own reputation, when according to Western sources, Azerbaijan’s own 10-year-long relationship with terrorists came to the surface, and it was demonstrated that indeed Azerbaijan had served as a regional terrorist hub.

So, that didn’t work. Today, since the international community speaks of countries’ responsibilities towards Security Council resolutions, Azerbaijan frivolously makes the same accusation about Armenia, without considering that indeed, Armenia has done exactly what the international community expected: use its good offices with the leadership of Nagorno Karabagh to help find a peaceful solution to this conflict.

Mr. President,

Azerbaijan has a choice: To continue with crude delusional manipulation and naïve wishful thinking, and hope for a return to a historical, military and political situation that is long gone. Or, join the international community, through the offices of the OSCE’s Minsk Group co-chairmen, to continue in the hard search for peace. The people on the ground, on all sides, have demonstrated their readiness for peace, for political and economic stability. The leaders at the very top persist with the honest dialog that will chip away at the political obstacles. We who are entrusted with transforming these efforts and desires into a just peace must approach our task honestly and responsibly.

Let me say the following: Nagorno Karabagh has never been a part of independent Azerbaijan. Whether we consider history or geography, whether we adopt a long-term political perspective, or whether we face the reality of the facts on the ground, the men, women and children of Nagorno Karabagh have earned the right to live peacefully on their historic lands.

Mr. President,

I wish to take the opportunity this podium provides to re-iterate President Kocharian’s statement before this General Assembly two years ago to work for the recognition of the Armenian Genocide and to prevent the repetition of such human atrocity. We extend our profound appreciation to all those governments, legislatures, and international bodies that have recognized the Armenian Genocide, and pledge our cooperation to all those that are currently in the process of reaffirming the facts of this crime against humanity. As a signatory of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, the Armenian Government places a high priority on the struggle to prevent future genocides and to stand up against all attempts to deny past genocides. We support all initiatives that reinforce the international consensus behind this landmark treaty.
Mr. President,

It is becoming clear that this millennium, too, will not be violence-free. Today, when global peace appears a distant hope, Armenia observes the volatility in the Caucasus, the Middle East and elsewhere with trepidation.

To face such challenges, Armenia supports proposals by the UN Secretary General aimed at the strengthening of the organization so that it can face new challenges in a more satisfactory way. Additionally, Armenia is in favor of more equitable representation at the Security Council, as well as more transparency of its activities.

The situation in the Middle East, in Afghanistan and around Iraq, remains a continuing example of the need for a vibrant and strengthened United Nations, able to assert the will of the organization’s membership, and empowered with greater authority to implement its decisions.

As states and governments continue to search for new ways to deal with emergent internal conflicts and increasingly complex interrelationships, Armenia is of the belief that the UN must stand for all the easy-to-orate but difficult-to-deliver principles of economic and political justice and equality among people. Given our uneven history and problematic geography, it is no surprise that Armenia is an advocate of multilateralism and collective security. From the vantage point of a country with our resources and limitations, we realize that peace is not possible without social justice, sustainable development and respect for the rights of all individuals and peoples in the community of nations.

Thank you Mr. President.

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U.S. Official Details Armenian Support to War in Afghanistan

A U.S. military official disclosed on Monday details of Armenia's support for the American military campaign in Afghanistan, saying that Yerevan not only opened its airspace to U.S. warplanes but also offered Armenian airfields for their possible emergency landings.

In an exclusive interview with RFE/RL, Lieutenant-Colonel Eric von Tersch, the U.S. military attaché, said the overflights through Armenia spared U.S. aircraft stationed in neighboring Turkey the dangerous task of refueling in mid-air on their way back from Afghanistan. He also revealed that about 360 Armenian nationals had volunteered to fight against the Taliban regime alongside U.S. troops last fall.

"I've got a list of about 360 people who wanted to pack up, go over to Afghanistan and contribute to the war on terror," von Tersch said. "These were all volunteers. It wasn't coming through the government, and obviously, we were not going to accept people like that."

"As much as we appreciate their offer of support, it has to come through the government. It can't come through the individuals," he said, suggesting that the Armenians expected solid financial compensation for their participation in the war.

It was not clear whether any of those men had taken part in the ill-fated Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Some 1,400 Armenians served in the Soviet troops that controlled much of the country from 1979-1989. More a hundred of them lost their lives.

Von Tersch said the individual offers of support were "matched officially in several ways," reminding of the Armenian government's decision in September 2001 to allow the U.S. warplanes to fly over Armenian territory on their Afghan missions. He claimed that they carried only "humanitarian" cargos.

"The airplanes were coming out of Turkey and dropping all the foodstuffs to different groups of Afghan people," the U.S. official explained. "They could fly to Afghanistan, drop their loads and fly back directly without having to do the dangerous refueling in the air. If they didn't fly over Armenia, they would have had to go over Georgia, which would have required the refueling in the high altitude."

Von Tersch further revealed that the Armenian government allowed U.S. planes returning from Afghanistan to carry out emergency landings in Armenia and pledged to provide medical treatment to the American servicemen "in case we had spinal injuries in Afghanistan and couldn't get them all the way down to Germany."

He said: "If a plane got shot up on its way back from Afghanistan, it could land in Armenian airfields without clearance and questions. We also had an understanding that if any of those planes went down in Armenia, the Armenians would provide security and medical care for the pilots."

The military strikes on Afghanistan, which followed the September 11 terror attacks, and the resulting review of Washington's security priorities led to the lifting of the U.S. government ban on military aid to Armenia and Azerbaijan. Each of the two Caucasus foes received over $4 million in American military assistance shortly afterwards.

The Armenian government wants most of the funds to be spent on the upgrading of its military communication facilities -- a proposal accepted by the United States. According to the military attaché: "Aside from the communications equipment that will be purchased and provided to the Armenian military, we will also train a lot of their people to help them set up a communications school here to restructure the way they do their communications procedures."

Von Tersch said the other part of the aid will be used for the training of Armenian military personnel, including a special peace-keeping battalion set up last year with a substantial financial and technical support of NATO member Greece. "We will come in behind and help the Greeks finish forming this peace-keeping battalion," he added.

The U.S. Congress is expected to earmark another $4 million worth of military assistance to Armenia for the next financial year.
By Armen Zakarian
Source: www.Armenialiberty.org

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SPEECH
BY HIS EXCELLENCY VARTAN OSKANIAN
MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA
AT TESEV
/Turkish Center for Economic and Social Studies/
June 26, 2002

First in the spirit of regional solidarity, let me congratulate Turkey in its football triumphs. There are some victories that we can all applaud and delight in.

Let me express my appreciation for the opportunity extended to me by TESEV to address this group. Anyone interested in the significance of political debate, in Turkey, as it faces important choices and tough challenges, cannot but recognize TESEV's role in the maintenance of a consistently high quality of discourse and the effort to be comprehensive and open to a wide range of ideas and positions.

I am sure you will all understand if I tell you that Armenia is quite interested in the substance of political debate in Turkey. After all, for the last half millennium, the destinies and the lives of our countries and our peoples have been intertwined. Not easily, not always for the best, but given that history and geography have thrown us together, we are neighbors.

We are not the only neighbors in the world who have had, and who continue to have, a troubled relationship. Troubled memories, a tortured past, recriminations, unsettled accounts and the enduring wounds of victimhood, plague the national consciousness of peoples on many borders. In our case, some distance between our two countries might have allowed us to put distance between our past and our future. But we have no such luxury. There is no space, no cushion, between us.

As we left Yerevan Monday morning, we could see Mount Ararat ever so clearly, both from the ground and from the air. We could almost reach out and touch it - almost. Ararat - and Turkey -are only 45 miles from my own Ministry. But we can not go there. As such, Ararat symbolizes both our pride and our frustration. It is a constant reminder of Turkish-Armenian ties, relations and history. They are all there in that mountain.

We know that evil ghosts on the Franco-German border were exorcised with the construction of the European Union.

But we also know that elsewhere, as in the Balkans, the last 10 years have seen the convulsions of settling the unsettled scores of centuries of accumulated resentment, domination and repression. To redress their deep-rooted antagonism, new structures, new frameworks are emerging, with the help of the hard-won experiences and the models of Western Europe. Tolerance, mutual respect, the admission of past excesses as well as the security of each entity and cooperative interdependent economies all contribute to implementing alternatives to interminable feuding.

It should not surprise anyone if we suggest that we in the South Caucasus should look carefully at such efforts to take solid steps to seriously address the challenges borne of historically rooted conflicts, centenary in their origins, embedded in the collective memories of peoples. Nor can these conflicts be simply resolved or cosmetically reformulated by those who believe that the past is an irrelevancy. History is as much the foundation of a neighborhood as geography, a common landscape of plateaus, majestic mountains or shared river basins.

In this neighborhood, Turkey is Armenia's neighbor, just as Armenia is Turkey's. This fact can be self-servingly ignored, manipulated, marginalized or resisted. But it cannot be denied or changed, except with bloodshed and further conflict.

I am sure you, too, remember the wisdom of your grandparents. My grandmother -- from Marash -- used to say that neighbors are more important than even family, and those relations must be nurtured. It is no different for states. No matter what else, we must talk to each other, deal with each other, visit each other, trade with each other, and do so within the framework of our own sovereign equal identities. This is true for each and all of our neighbors. It is not for Armenia to judge Turkey's friendship with Azerbaijan. Shared ethnic, cultural, linguistic, economic or even strategic interests are understandable.

But that is no reason to isolate others or hold captive one set of interactions for the benefit of a third party. We do not hold Turkey's moral, political, economic -- even military -- assistance to Azerbaijan against it. We may not always like that closeness, or appreciate its implications for our own security.

Nevertheless, we are ready for dialogue, for diplomatic relations, for open formal sovereign communications, without which regional imbalances, instability and even hostilities cannot be righted, mitigated, and anchored in reciprocal understanding.

Where there are no open channels or constant dialogue and exchange, old ghosts will keep rattling in everybody's closets. To wait for them to go away before beginning dialogue and exchange means waiting forever. It means that - - perhaps - we do not want them to go away. If indeed we do, then the demons, which are poisoning our air, must be attacked together, their legacy must be transcended together. They relate to all of us, and they will only disappear when we tackle the abyss of experience and memory, which separates us.

To do this, Armenia advocates full diplomatic relations with Turkey without preconditions.
This does not mean Armenia is willing to renounce its national memories nor dismiss the historical injustices it has suffered. We notice with satisfaction that in Turkey there has been a movement away from a monolithic, undifferentiated rigid approach concerning the Genocide to a more pluralistic and varied debate. This debate within Turkey may have not moved forward official policy, but Armenia is gratified to see this debate occur, where the subject is no longer taboo.

After all, memory does not heal by denial. The truthful assuming of responsibility is a precondition for the rebuilding of trust. Open relations between our two countries can further contribute to the slow but steady improvement of mutual confidence.

Ironically -- and being the huge optimist that I am, I would say fortunately -- your resistance to open relations with Armenia is not based on the existence of our shared historic problems. Rather, relations between Turkey and Armenia are being held hostage to Armenia's own conflicts and tensions with Azerbaijan.

Quite honestly, Armenian and Azerbaijani relations, too, are being held hostage - hostage to Azerbaijan's own reluctance to recognize incontrovertible facts on the ground, its tendency to confuse stubbornness for principles, its desire to build policy on myths and fables, and its denial of the reality that a future must be built on a real past and a viable present.

Let's look at those realities: Nagorno Karabagh has never been part of an independent Azerbaijan - either before Soviet rule, or since the fall of the Soviet empire. Except for the Soviet period, Nagorno Karabagh had never been under Azerbaijani control. The men, women and children of Nagorno Karabagh seceded from Soviet Azerbaijan legally in accordance with the constitutional framework of the very Soviet Union, which had incorporated Nagorno Karabagh into Azerbaijan, admittedly arbitrarily, in 1923. During the Soviet years, its population was oppressed, their rights systematically denied. Hence, they repeatedly sought redress. Since its legal separation more than a dozen years ago, a whole generation has grown up in Nagorno Karabagh, free of Azerbaijani control.

The world has acknowledged that the Soviet era has ended. Let us then not consent to continuing to define our regional relations and determining our people's futures based on conditions created by a Stalin long dead. His empire is dismembered, his construction of arbitrary political and ethnic borders is collapsed, his control has long ended, and we do not have to be saddled with implementing his unrealistic, unjust vision. Armenians, Turks and Azeris together can transcend what history has wrought to reach a peace and prosperity that our peoples deserve and that reflect their own free choices.

OR, we can keep coming up against a lack of flexibility, a lack of courage to accommodate change and to try new solutions, and a lack of genuine vision in order to embrace the change.

Azerbaijan has succeeded in convincing Turkey that blockading Armenia will diminish Armenia's economic capacity, undermine its self-reliance and force Armenia to negotiate from a weaker position and hence compel it to consider concessions it would not otherwise be willing to make in the conflict over Nagorno Karabagh.

Turkey's and Azerbaijan's continued closures of the borders with Armenia are based on the demonstrably false premise that Armenia's weak and collapsing economy will force it to accept any solution imposed by friend and foe alike. Perhaps, Azerbaijan, for a variety of reasons, including domestic consumption, world public opinion, and the need to justify clinging to a politics that so far have been ineffectual, needs to create and perpetuate the myth of Armenia's utter vulnerability, and its being on the verge of economic collapse. Others who are not in that situation and who could think otherwise, based on their own national self-interest, do not have to buy into that mythology and do not have to invest in politics and strategies based on false assessments.

Armenia and its economy are not collapsing and its rank in the Human Development Index is ahead of some unexpected rivals. On the Index of Open Economies, too Armenia, in 45th place is way ahead of our neighbors in the region. Last year, our GNP grew 9.6 %; in the first half of this year we've achieved 10 percent, and hope to finish the year at that rate of growth. Our macroeconomic indicators have been consistently promising. As you can see, fables are born when things cannot be said accurately.

Of course, while we have a way to go to fully fulfill our potential, it is evident that we are not as fragile as some would wish us to be. On the contrary. Certain hardships can harden the resolve of people who are unfairly besieged. And we are no exception. It is not too soon for our neighbors to realize that the last decade's politics of pressure, discrimination and blockades have not achieved their intended goals. Instead, they may have added to our determination to solidify and strengthen relations with those of our neighbors who value our friendship and share with us common interests both bilaterally and in the region.

They have had another effect as well. They have done nothing to soothe the sense of suspicion and resentment. If Turkey is going to live up to its role as regional leader, and is committed to being a fair, effective and positive actor in the stabilization and peace of the South Caucasus, it cannot pursue a policy of explicit, unabashed partiality, a politics of exclusion and one-sidedness, of insulating Armenia, or surrounding it with military and economic alliances that look like they intend to contain and strangle.

It is worth for a moment to remember that Armenia does not have the capacity to damage, contain or strangle Turkey. Indeed, this fear can, realistically, only be one-sided. And provocations by one's neighbor can feed such fears.

When alliances and assistance can leap borders, it is more and more difficult to successfully carry out unilateral, partial policies. Today, both Armenia and Turkey see their future in Europe. This gives us one more reason to cooperate, to seriously implement the reforms that are as important to us as they are to a watchful Europe. TESEV's invitation to change mentalities, to embrace change and to see the world in a way that recognizes the primacy of the individual human being substituting to the mechanical impulses of domineering realpolitik and intrusive statism is a welcome corrective. Accepting the full implications of a change in mindsets, which is both cause and effect, is a step in the right direction for all of us. We welcome the challenge and the opportunity of dealing with a historic neighbor whose europeanization is in our common interest.

Indeed, TESEV's general focus on the need for active cooperation between the governments and the peoples of the region for the region's future peace and prosperity is very much in line with Armenia's thinking. The riches of the region, both in terms of natural and human resources, as you say, are indeed important assets for the welfare, solidarity, and cooperation of the region's people. However, we call on you to consider that waiting for the problems to be resolved before such cooperation begins means no cooperation at all. Today, Turkey and Armenia have a chance to base their future in this region on peace, on future stability, on economic and social parity, and mutual understanding.

The opportunities are ours to seize and the benefits are ours to reap.


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STATEMENT
OF
HIS EXCELLENCY VARTAN OSKANIAN
MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF
THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA

AT THE DECENNIAL ANNIVERSARY SUMMIT
OF THE
BLACK SEA ECONOMIC COOPERATION
JUNE 25, 2002

Excellencies,
Mr. Secretary-General,
Ladies and gentlemen,

At the outset I would like to express our gratitude to President Sezer and the Turkish Government for organizing this historic reunion, exactly a decade from the day when the decision was made to establish the Organization of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation. Today it is difficult to imagine our region without this mechanism with its huge potential for multilateral cooperation. Indeed, despite differences among some member states on certain issues, the BSEC has already proven its viability.

The BSEC was formed because we realized that by maximizing and combining our resources we would be able to compete and benefit from a globalized society. We also recognized that although we have some political and, even more, economic interests in common, our varied political systems, orientations and interests lead to grave differences and sometimes incompatibilities. Therefore, we wisely chose the path of economic cooperation, believing that our common stake in improving the quality of our citizens' lives would override the divisions among us.

In the years to come, we will have many opportunities to demonstrate that this was an intelligent choice. The politicization that sometimes blinds us to today's opportunities for shared prosperity and a bright future can still be set aside in favor of enlightened self-interest. We can agree to disagree because we know that we can thus tackle together the regional challenges which we cannot tackle alone. We need only realize that the risk involved in setting aside differences is worth it, given the benefits to be gained by true cooperation.

The questions that face us as a region are a microcosm of the issues that face the world: How can we create effective partnerships in a diverse region? Which comes first - economic collaboration or political cooperation? What is necessary for the formation of common interests and values? Where does cultural dialog fit into international relations? How can we close the recurring gap between objectives and programs? What happens when natural resources are unevenly distributed in the same geographic area?

These questions are very compelling in our neighborhood. No one doubts that in the search for answers, we must deepen our cooperation in the BSEC framework and accelerate the BSEC's evolution into a fully-fledged international organization.

We have completed the BSEC's formative stage. And, in working to better utilize the promise of this organization, we have established the Black Sea Trade and Development Bank. Today, we are looking to establish the BSEC Project Development Fund which will stimulate cooperation on specific regional projects. We are looking to increase effective partnerships and cooperation with the EU, and
Armenia hopes we will further expand the cooperation between the BSEC and other international and regional organizations, in particular the United Nations system, bolstered by the relevant General Assembly resolutions. Throughout, we are also working to improve the effectiveness of the organization itself.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Since its establishment, this organization, and the world, are facing even more complex challenges. The events of September 11 demonstrated that in this new world, groups and individuals more and more often interact directly across frontiers, without involving the state. In a region such as ours, where interstate relations are uneven, this can be a useful activity. However, the absence of rigid frontiers also brings with it such dangers as terrorism, narcotics, pollution, disease, weapons, refugees and migrants.

Armenia attaches special importance to cooperation in combating organized crime, in particular terrorism, illegal drug and weapon trafficking and illegal migration. We are pleased to acknowledge that since the first Meeting of the Ministers of Interior, which took place in Yerevan in 1996, such cooperation is well underway and has already achieved notable results.

This successful track record is evidence that our whole is greater than the sum of our parts. The eleven member states that make up BSEC have varied geographies, histories, governing traditions, resources and prospects for development. What we have in common are the basic elements for mutually beneficial cooperation across the lands that are influenced by the Black Sea and its wealth and potential.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the other thing we have in common is the opportunity that is waiting at our door - to collectively transform this region into an active constituent part of the emerging global landscape rather than remaining spectators to the development of the world that is forming around us.

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SPEECH BY H. E. MR. ROBERT KOCHARIAN,
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF ARMENIA AT THE ARGENTINEAN COUNCIL OF INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
(BUENOS AIRES, 3 MAY 2002)

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I would like to thank the Chairperson and the members of the Council for hosting me here today. I hope our discussions will provoke an interesting exchange of views to enhance our understanding of various regional and international challenges.
I would like to begin by reiterating Armenia's commitment to further diversifying our relations with Argentina and expanding our bilateral co-operation. These objectives form the core of our discussions with the political leadership of Argentina. I am greatly encouraged by the spirit of negotiations with my colleague and by his strong resolve to provide a new quality to our relations. Armenia and Argentina may not be geographical neighbours, we are separated by thousands of kilometres. However, the history of long and substantial contact between our two peoples and our shared values have become the foundations upon which we have based our present partnership. And, thanks to the Latin alphabet, we are neighbours in many international organisations, where we work, and sit quite close to each other.
Argentina has become home to thousands of our compatriots. Most of them have reached the shores of Argentina out of desperation and as a result of the Genocide at the beginning of the last century. They restored their lives and boast a great pride in this land. They are today loyal citizens of your country, deeply integrated in Argentinean society. Many of them have risen to prominent positions in all walks of life. Armenians are deeply grateful to this land and its people for their compassion and hospitality. Today the Armenian community in Argentina is a solid bridge that links our two nations and seals our friendship.
The present visit of the President of the Republic of Armenia to Argentina is symbolic as it marks the tenth anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between our two nations. Throughout these ten years we have maintained an excellent political dialogue at all levels. We can also expand our bilateral co-operation to various other fields, such as education, science and culture. Our rather modest record of economic and commercial co-operation should see an increase as a result of our discussions with the President of Argentina.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The re-establishment of Armenia's independence ten years ago presented us with the opportunity to rebuild our state structures and redefine our place in the world. We stepped on the path of building a free nation based on democratic values with a commitment to a market economy. We have pursued these objectives in the face of a number of difficulties, inherited from the past and coupled with the transformation problems. These obstacles have not swayed us from our commitments.
We continue to implement a package of comprehensive legislative reforms in Armenia. This is happening hand-in-hand with the integration of Armenia in the European structures where Armenia belongs.
Our accession to the Council of Europe last year was an indication of a meaningful level of achievement in domestic reforms. We have already enacted a series of legislative acts in order to consolidate the guarantees of political diversity, to improve the practice of democratic elections. I am confident that the presidential and parliamentary elections due to take place next year will demonstrate the maturity of Armenia's democracy.
We have developed a substantial legal framework for a new economic environment and favourable investment climate, a fact that has been internationally recognized. Our legislation is now essentially in conformity with the standards of an open economy and liberal trade. The private sector has become the driving force behind our economic growth and a major provider of new jobs. The government will remain committed to encouraging and supporting investments into the Armenian economy.
It is our urgent priority today to translate sustainable growth to improved social and economic conditions for the population, to optimise our resources and eradicate bad governance practices. For this, legislative and practical measures are taken to reform the civil service, provide better tax and customs administration and effective implementation of targeted social protection programmes. Even as we realise that there is still much to be done, we cannot deny the obvious progress that has been made.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The above-mentioned steps will become the guarantors of our economic security. Our overall national security, however, has from the first days of our independence been challenged by several factors. Our region is well-known for complex political, historical, economic and ethnic relationships. It has always been a venue for intrigues and colliding geopolitical interests. The region has also been sensitive to changing forces in or around Europe. Our region's dependence on great powers, as a rule, has brought conflicting hopes, confrontations, and, as a result, grief and deprivation. Each empire brought with it varying cultural values. These, coupled with the region's complex religious and ethnic composition, resulted in the most knotty interrelationships. Overcoming the historic antagonisms in our region is among the most complex and serious challenges of our time. Through a foreign policy of complementarity Armenia has succeeded in working effectively with our neighbors, with regional powers and with Russia, the United States and Europe. Instead of trying to gain from colliding interests of great powers, we aim at gaining from finding ways to ease tensions and conflate their interests. This policy also consolidates our political and economic integration within various international and regional structures.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Our choice to strongly engage Armenia in Europe is not dictated only by the recognition of our historical affiliations. We recognise the strategic priority of ensuring Armenia's security and prosperity within the European architecture. We have already developed a considerable agenda of co-operation with the European Union within our Partnership and Co-operation Agreement. Our membership in the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe is an important instrument for consolidating Armenia's security and promoting our political and democratic reforms.

The OSCE is also entrusted with helping with the resolution of the most difficult challenge facing us today: the problem of Nagorno Karabagh. This is the story of a people who have been denied their right to self-determination by the Soviet and the Azerbaijani authorities. They have been subjected to the danger of physical extermination. The people of Nagorno Karabagh have not only protected their legitimate rights, but have also erected sound structures of self-rule. This is what has in fact taken place: as a result of the collapse of the USSR, on the territory of a former Azerbaijani province, two independent states have been formed: the Republic of Nagorno Karabagh and the Republic of Azerbaijan. The legal basis for the creation of the Republic of Nagorno Karabagh is faultless, and we are prepared to discuss the resolution of the conflict in legal terms. The borders between these two states essentially correspond to the historic divisions between Armenian and Azerbaijani demographic habitation patterns. We recognize the right of the people of Nagorno Karabagh to self-determination and self-defence. We do not see this as a violation of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity, since Nagorno Karabagh has never been a part of an independent Azerbaijani state. Moreover, we would view any attempts to overtake Nagorno Karabagh as aggression with the aim of illegally capturing other's territory.
What makes the Nagorno Karabagh conflict distinct from others is that the cease-fire achieved between the parties eight years ago has been holding without any outside forces. Armenia remains committed to the peaceful resolution of the conflict through the negotiations process within the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The efforts of the mediators, their co-chair countries, Russia, France and the United States, resulted last year in the Paris principles, which appropriately reflect the boundaries of compromise. I am certain that a lasting peace in the region can be reached on the basis of these principles.
Armenia remains a strong advocate of regional co-operation among the countries of the South Caucasus. We are confident that by implementing joint projects we will promote closer contacts between our peoples and contribute to confidence building and a favourable environment for the resolution of the existing distrust. In the long run, regional integration processes will form the foundation for lasting peace and stability. We support the formula of reaching a settlement through cooperation. In this regard we welcome the support and encouragement from the international community, including the United Nations, the European Union, the OSCE and others. Regional co-operation will help increase our individual capacities and will make the region appear more attractive to the world business community.
Armenia maintains its policy of promoting good relations and co-operation with the countries neighbouring the region. Iran has throughout all these years remained an important partner for Armenia. We greatly value our southern neighbour's balanced approach to our regional affairs. Iran is an important gateway for Armenia to diversify its energy supplies and transport communications.
Armenia's relations with Turkey remain hostage to the latter's uncompromising bias towards Azerbaijan and an ongoing blockade of Armenia. We have called and continue to call on Turkey to embark on relations with Armenia with no preconditions. Turkey's continuing refusal to recognise the Armenian Genocide of 1915 remains a psychological and political barrier that must be transcended. We have had a difficult past. As long as Turkey continues to deny that past, our reconciliation remains hostage to mistrust.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The tragic events of 11th September have demonstrated the challenge of new threats to international security. Our region has not been immune to such threats. At present our previous ideas about national security arrangements and international co-operation are undergoing major transformations. The evolving new security structures have taken on a new momentum. We look forward to growing co-operation between former adversaries and joint efforts to secure international peace.
Armenia's strategic partnership and alliance with Russia reflect the traditional friendship between our two nations, as well as our interest in enhancing regional security without disrupting the traditional balance of power. Attempts to ignore Russia's interests in the region endanger our regional security structures. Our security co-operation with Russia exists both at the bilateral level and within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty among six former Soviet states. Parallelly, we have been successfully developing security co-operation with NATO within the Partnership for Peace programme. At present we are setting out the outlines of our military co-operation with the United States.
The emergence of military cooperation with the United States in our region may become an effective instrument for combating new threats to our security and complementing the existing structures. Such developments are taking place in the context of a growing co-operation between Russia and NATO, Russia and the United States.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
In a world where distances matter less and less, the distance between Armenia and Argentina will no longer be as significant to our relationship, as our common programs for economic cooperation, our political goodwill and our belief in our peoples' determination to overcome all odds. Argentina, too, will overcome today's complex challenges and will succeed, not just on the world's political and economic stage, but also on the football field. I had the pleasure of watching Argentinian team in the last World Cup match, sitting with your president, who was then visiting Armenia. I assure you that thousands in our country will share your emotions in support of your great national team. We wish you good luck.
Thank you.

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PRESIDENT ROBERT KOCHARIAN'S ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE

March 14, 2002

Q. Mr. President, sources close to the negotiating circles claim that the process of negotiations as entered a deadlock since the talks in Key West, Florida. In your opinion, is this a correct assessment of the situation?
A. I would refrain from such an unambiguous assessment. The process of searching for ways to settle the conflict is going on. Not as fast as we would have liked it to be, but I still do not think there are sufficient grounds to characterize the current situation as a deadlock.Q. Mr. President, before the Key West summit, it looked like there was a tendency towards progress in the process of negotiations. What stopped that progress?
A. It is true that by the spring of last year we had some serious developments that gave us grounds for optimism. Prior to the Key West talks, we had a number of bilateral meetings between the Presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan. These included the meeting in Paris that concluded this stage of the process. The French President participated in that meeting where we agreed on the principles of a settlement. All of this gave rise to certain hopes for a possibility of serious progress in the peace process. In Key West, the first draft of Paris principles was put on paper and could become the basis for the next stage in negotiations. The Armenian side accepted the results of the Key West meeting and expressed its preparedness to continue the process of negotiations. It is now up to the Azeri side.

Q. Do the so-called Paris Principles still remain the main basis for negotiations? What are they about?
A. Armenia continues to support these very principles: other options simply do not exist today.

Q. Mr. President, in your view, is the OSCE Minsk Group an effective tool for settling the Karabakh issue or should the Minsk Group be replaced by some other institution?
A. The format of the OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs is optimal: Russia, the United States and France - three superpowers with serious influence and serious interests in this region. This configuration seems to be rather efficient when all the three co-chairs cooperate closely. I believe this is the best thing one could come up with for the settlement.

Q. Are there any circumstances under which Armenia would accept such a solution to the Karabakh question where Karabakh were recognized as a part of Azerbaijan?
A. Nagorno Karabakh has never been a part of the sovereign Republic of Azerbaijan and we do not see any legal grounds for such a solution. Armenia has indicated on several occasions the limits of compromise acceptable for Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh, these limits have been outlined rather clearly. First, it is the equal legal rights of the conflicting parties. Second - impossibility of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic's enclave existence. The third principle has to do with security - we need security guarantees and serious resources from the international community to back these guarantees. Armenia can consider numerous combinations and options within these limits.

Q. Mr. President, some government officials in Azerbaijan have stated on many occasions that they are prepared to solve the issue by military means, if necessary. Do you think such statements are real? What would Armenia's reaction be if the events were to unfold in that direction?
A. One thing is clear today: whoever starts the war is likely to be defeated. I am sure about that. The cease-fire has been in place since May 1994, the parties have been working on strengthening the defense lines for the past seven years. Therefore, whoever starts a new war is going to have serious military problems. In addition, a war would be a serious political defeat for the party that starts it. Third, this is a responsibility towards one's own people. I believe that those officials who call for a war must fully understand the consequences of such actions.

Q. Mr. President, some observers claim that Karabakh's current status satisfies Armenia and that the official Yerevan participates in the negotiations just to please its international partners. How sincere is Armenia in its search for a peaceful solution to the conflict?
A. Your question reflects a rather curious "mythmaking" tendency around the Karabakh conflict. A few years ago, when Armenia was "suffocating" in a blockade while Azerbaijan lived in anticipation of an oil boom, the myths were diametrically opposite: they used to say that Azerbaijan does not need to hurry with the settlement, since the time plays into Azerbaijan's hands. Today, the myths are created on the basis of the same logic, but the direction has changed. I think this has to do with the fact that the Azeri oil miracle did not happen, whereas Armenia demonstrated its viability and ability to get positive results in the most difficult of circumstances. In politics, one should be able to separate myths from reality. The reality is this: none of the countries of the region can benefit from the dragging out of the conflict. This is true for Armenia, for Nagorno Karabakh and for Azerbaijan. Lasting peace and political stability in the South Caucasus are the most important conditions for successful development of each individual country and the region as a whole. The understanding of this fact lies in the basis of Armenia's foreign policy and of all our regional initiatives. The sooner the opposite side recognizes this truth, the sooner this "myth-making" will give way to real politics.

Q. Mr. President, French President Jacques Chirac has recently expressed confidence that the Karabakh conflict will be settled this year. Do you think this is real? If not, what is the real timeframe?
A. It is difficult to forecast the pace of moving forward. I believe we have come a long way, but I would not like to make any concrete prognosis about the timeframe of this progress. I would only say what I believe: with joint efforts, we can find a solution to this problem.

Q. Mr. President, in 2001, Armenia had a record 9.6 percent GDP growth. Are there any plans for expanding trade ties with Turkey to keep up this growth? If so, what form will the planned expansion take?
A. There are really some positive trends in the economy - a GDP growth, which spells more active production and export of Armenian goods; financial stability; favorable conditions for free business activities and trade. By the way, this is also confirmed by prestigious international ratings - last year, Armenia was recognized as the most economically free among the CIS countries. However, Armenia reached its current economic indicators independent of its trade ties with Turkey, since such ties are practically absent. I would like to point out that this lack of ties is not our fault. Armenia has stated on many occasions that it is prepared to normalize its relations with Turkey and that it is ready for mutually beneficial trade and economic cooperation, but Turkey prefers to keep the border closed. Nevertheless, I repeat that Armenia is prepared to consider the possibilities of cooperation, provided that Turkey has a good will to do so. I would also like to point out that Turkey itself needs these trade ties, as its economy is going through some serious difficulties.

Q. Mr. President, Armenia has pledged to the international community to close the Metsamor nuclear power plant. Can you say when exactly will this closure happen?
A. The decision to close the Metsamor nuclear power plant results not only from Armenia's international obligations. It is also in Armenia's own interests. At the same time, this issue of closing the nuclear power plant has a wider context and should be resolved together with other issues that would guarantee Armenia's energy security - diversification of supply of energy resources, construction of alternative capacities. I must say that the EU appreciates and supports this approach. We are currently working with the European Commission on developing a program that would coordinate Armenia's obligations and the activities of the European Union and other donor countries. Only after this program is developed will it be possible to give a realistic date for the closure of the nuclear power plant.
I must also say that a lot of attention is paid to the increasing of safety of the Armenian nuclear power plant. The plant's operation is under constant control by the Nuclear Energy Safety Committee at the President's Office, which includes a number of highly respected specialists in this field from various countries.

Q. What alternative capacities do you envisage to replace the Metsamor nuclear power plant?
A. The 5th block of the Hrazdan power plant, modernization of the Yerevan thermo-electric power plant and a serious hydro-energy development program. We are also working on small oil and gas infrastructure development projects within the framework of the INOGATE program, as well as a program for making use of wind power.

Q. Mr. President, U.S. President George Bush recently called Iran a part of an "axis of evil." In view of this statement, does Armenia intend to change its policy in military and economic aspects of cooperation with Iran? Do the plans for construction of the Iran-Armenian gas pipeline remain unchanged?
A. The peculiarity of the South Caucasus requires a certain degree of caution and care. Armenia does not attempt to benefit from disagreements between other countries; instead, it searches for ways to benefit from reconciling these differences. This is the foundation of our foreign policy based on the principle of complementarity. As for Iran specifically, Armenia and Iran have been good neighbors for many centuries, and these relations are currently expressed in a growing trade and economic cooperation. There is no serious military aspect in our relations. Plans for constructing the Iran-Armenia gas pipeline are currently in a development stage and we continue to work on them.

Q. Mr. President, some demographers claim that more than a million people have left the country in the past ten years. Does this tendency pose a threat to Armenia's statehood? What measures can be taken to slow this process down?
A. A census was taken in Armenia last October. The census results will allow to have a more accurate assessment of migration tendencies and to reach conclusions on the basis of real numbers. The census results indicate that there is no threat to Armenia's statehood, but the situation deserves some serious attention. The current processes are very similar throughout the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. First and foremost, they have to do with the difficult economic situation. It is Armenia's peculiarity that we have a historically formed large Diaspora that gives Armenians great mobility. How can one resist these processes? Obviously, through active economic policy. I think the way to solve this problem is to have normal economic growth in a stable country and to attract investments. We are working actively in this regard. One of the main priorities last year was job creation and we managed to reach our goals. If we keep the achievements of previous year and add something new every year, the results will certainly have an impact on the situation with migration.

Q. Mr. President, ethnic Armenians living in Samtskhe-Javakhetia, Georgia, claim that they are victims of economic and political discrimination on the part of Georgian authorities. Are Armenian authorities concerned about that? Will this issue be raised with the Georgian side?
A. For a long time already, the Georgian President and I have developed a tradition of frank discussions of problems of our compatriots who are Georgian citizens; as a rule, we find solutions for even the most complex and sensitive issues. Armenians living in Samtskhe-Javakhetia experience many socio-economic difficulties - that is true. But others also have the same difficulties. This is a reflection of the general situation in Georgia. We have always seen a preparedness on the part of the Georgian leadership to do their best to solve those socio-economic problems and issues related to the developing of the region's infrastructure and strengthening of its integration into Georgia's public life. Of course, the fate of our compatriots in Georgia is something that concerns the Armenian leadership and, from our side, we are prepared to contribute to the solution of problems in the Armenian-populated regions. We have constant contacts with the Georgian leadership on these issues and there is mutual understanding. One must not allow these social problems to get an ethnic slant.

Q. Mr. President, opposition parties in Armenia strongly criticize the decision to extend the amnesty to six out of the eleven people arrested in connection with the 1999 shootings in the parliament. What is your reaction to the allegations that your government was not objective and unbiased on this issue?
A. The six people you are talking about have been released together with thousands of others, who were either already convicted or were on trial, in accordance with an amnesty announced on the occasion of the 1700th anniversary of Christianity in Armenia. The decision on this amnesty was unanimously approved by the National Assembly, where all the major political forces are represented, including those who now criticize this decision. I think any further comments on this issue would be redundant; you can draw your own conclusions.

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